Augustus leads by 22.6 pts · 2 figures compared

Emperor · Ancient

Emperor · Medieval
Octavian, Mark Antony, and Marcus Aemilius Lepidus formed the Second Triumvirate, a legal commission to govern the Roman Republic. The alliance was empowered to proscribe enemies, leading to the execution of Cicero and consolidation of their power against the assassins of Julius Caesar.
Octavian's fleet, commanded by Marcus Agrippa, defeated the combined naval forces of Mark Antony and Cleopatra VII off the coast of Greece. The victory eliminated Octavian's last major rival, giving him sole control over the Roman world and ending the Roman Republic's civil wars.
Octavian formally returned power to the Roman Senate, which then granted him the titles Augustus and Princeps. This constitutional settlement created the Roman Empire, with Augustus as the first emperor, ending the Roman Republic and initiating the Pax Romana.
Augustus implemented a comprehensive tax reform, including a census of Roman citizens and property, direct taxation of provinces, and the creation of a professional tax collection service (publicani). This system provided stable revenue for the empire and reduced corruption.
Augustus established the Praetorian Guard as a permanent elite military unit tasked with protecting the emperor and his family. Stationed in Rome and Italy, the Guard became a powerful political force, often influencing imperial succession through coups and assassinations.
The Roman Senate commissioned the Ara Pacis Augustae (Altar of Augustan Peace) to commemorate Augustus's return from pacifying Gaul and Spain. The marble altar, decorated with reliefs depicting the imperial family and mythological scenes, symbolized the peace and prosperity of the Augustan era.
Louis IX led the Seventh Crusade to Egypt, capturing Damietta in 1249. The campaign ended in disaster at the Battle of Al-Mansurah in 1250, where Louis was captured and later ransomed for a huge sum.
Louis IX implemented judicial and administrative reforms in France, including the establishment of the Parlement of Paris and the prohibition of private warfare. These measures strengthened royal authority and centralized justice.
Louis IX signed the Treaty of Paris with Henry III of England, ending the conflict between the Capetian and Plantagenet dynasties. The treaty confirmed French control over Normandy, Anjou, and Poitou in exchange for English recognition.
Louis IX launched the Eighth Crusade, targeting Tunis in North Africa. The crusade was cut short by an outbreak of disease; Louis died of dysentery outside Tunis, ending the campaign without significant military action.
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这个比较蛮有趣的,但我觉得西方中心主义色彩太重了。奥古斯都建立元首制,确实像中国的汉武帝加强中央集权,但路易九世,你们可能不了解,他在中国史书上几乎找不到对应。路易九世以圣洁闻名,但中国历史上很少有君主因为个人品德被神化,李世民虽有贞观之治,但没人把他当圣人。路易九世的政治分87分,对比他实际权力——被贵族和教会掣肘,我觉得高了。反观奥古斯都,他更像秦始皇加汉光武帝:终结乱世、建立新制度、大兴土木。如果按中国史观,奥古斯都的总分应该至少在90以上,路易九世大概在50-60之间。
Okay, I love this matchup—you’ve got the guy who built the Roman Empire vs. the saint-king of France! But I read in Thomas Asbridge’s 'The Crusades' that Louis IX was actually a pretty decent military organizer—he reformed the French army’s supply lines and built fortified ports. Still, Augustus straight-up created the Pax Romana, which is like 200 years of peace. That’s insane. And Augustus’s political score is totally deserved—he played the Senate like a fiddle. Louis was holy but got bossed around by the Pope and nobles. I think the scores are fair, but maybe Louis’s influence should be higher because he literally became a saint and inspired medieval kings for centuries? Just a thought.
This comparison is classic Western hagiography. Louis IX gets a military score of 91 for losing two crusades and dying in a failed campaign? That’s absurd. Meanwhile, Augustus gets dinged for not being a conqueror like Caesar—but consolidation is harder than conquest. And let’s talk about the elephant in the room: Louis IX was a religious zealot who persecuted Jews, forced them to wear distinguishing badges, and burned the Talmud. His 'saintly' reputation is a PR job by the Church. Augustus, for all his faults, was secular and pragmatic. The scores reek of Christian medieval bias. Give me the pagan pragmatist over the holy crusader any day.
这套评分系统有点意思,但仔细看数据有问题。路易九世的军事分91分,奥古斯都只有72分,这明显不合理。路易九世两次十字军东征都以失败告终,第七次被俘,第八次死在突尼斯,这叫高分?中国历史上类似君主,比如宋徽宗,也热衷宗教和对外战争,结果一样惨,历史评价就不好。反观奥古斯都,他完成了罗马从共和国到帝国的和平转型,建立了常备军和禁卫军制度,这放在中国就是秦始皇加汉文帝的水平。我建议评分系统应该引入'战果/成本比'指标,否则这种数字没有任何参考价值。
The comparison is interesting but the military scores seem reversed. Augustus’s military record, while not as flamboyant as Caesar’s, was strategically crucial: he professionalized the legions, established the Praetorian Guard, and secured the Rhine-Danube frontier after Teutoburg. Louis IX’s crusades, by contrast, were costly failures—the Seventh ended in his capture and ransom, the Eighth with his death from dysentery. Suetonius notes Augustus ‘reduced the number of legions to twenty-five’ and ‘kept them permanently stationed in the provinces’—that’s institutional military reform. Louis was pious but tactically naive. I’d give Augustus the edge here, not the other way around.
不要把历史人物当偶像崇拜. Augustus和Louis IX of France都是双手沾满鲜血的征服者,他们的'伟大'建立在无数普通人的苦难之上. 客观评分可以,但不要美化暴力.
战略评分完全同意. Louis IX of France的战术创新确实改变了战争方式,这在数据中体现得很好.
I've studied both figures extensively. The political score for Louis IX of France is spot-on — their administrative reforms were centuries ahead of their time. Augustus was a great conqueror but a mediocre administrator.