Julius Caesar leads by 39.6 pts · 2 figures compared

Revolutionary · Modern

General · Ancient
Damdin Sukhbaatar, along with other revolutionaries, founded the Mongolian People's Party (later the Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party) in Urga (now Ulaanbaatar). This party aimed to overthrow Chinese rule and establish an independent Mongolia, inspired by communist ideology.
Sukhbaatar led the Mongolian People's Army in a successful revolution against Chinese forces and the White Russian troops of Baron Ungern. The revolution resulted in the establishment of a communist government in Mongolia, with Sukhbaatar as a key military leader.
After the revolutionary victory, Sukhbaatar and the Mongolian People's Party declared the independence of Mongolia from China. This declaration was formalized with the establishment of the People's Government, marking the end of Chinese rule and the beginning of a new era.
Sukhbaatar died at the age of 30 under mysterious circumstances, officially attributed to illness. His death occurred shortly after the revolution, and he was later revered as a national hero. Some historians suggest he may have been poisoned due to political rivalries within the party.
Caesar, as proconsul of Gaul, launched a series of campaigns that conquered all of Gaul (modern France, Belgium, and parts of Switzerland). He fought numerous battles, including against the Helvetii, the Belgae, and the Gallic chieftain Vercingetorix. The wars brought immense wealth and a loyal army to Caesar.
Caesar led Legio XIII across the Rubicon River into Italy, defying the Roman Senate's order to disband his army. This act triggered a civil war against Pompey and the Optimates, ultimately leading to Caesar's dictatorship and the end of the Roman Republic.
Caesar's outnumbered army defeated the larger forces of Pompey the Great at Pharsalus in Greece. Caesar's tactical use of a reserve line to counter Pompey's cavalry charge proved decisive. Pompey fled to Egypt, where he was assassinated, leaving Caesar as the undisputed master of the Roman world.
The Roman Senate appointed Caesar dictator perpetuo (dictator for life), granting him unprecedented personal power. This move concentrated military, legislative, and judicial authority in one person, effectively ending the Roman Republic's traditional system of checks and balances and alarming many senators.
A group of Roman senators, led by Marcus Junius Brutus and Gaius Cassius Longinus, stabbed Caesar to death at a meeting of the Senate in the Theatre of Pompey. The assassination was intended to restore the Republic, but instead triggered another civil war that led to the rise of the Roman Empire.
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拿苏赫巴托跟恺撒比,就像拿岳王爷跟成吉思汗比,差着几个量级。蒙古独立那点事,本质上就是苏联在背后推的棋子,苏赫巴托不过是个占地不足百里、统兵不过千人的地方军阀。恺撒可是征服了高卢全境、战胜庞培、改写整个地中海世界的命运。你这对比不是在抬高蒙古英雄,是在侮辱罗马史。请先搞清楚什么叫"改变世界"再说话。
Missing the point entirely. Caesar's real genius wasn't his military but his political theater—dictator for life, calendar reform, naming a month after himself. Sukhbaatar had no time for that; he died at 30 of illness. The comparison should be about legacy: one created an imperial dynasty that lasted centuries, the other a puppet state that collapsed into Soviet vassalage within a decade. Different scales entirely.
你们全是西方中心论。苏赫巴托1919年就在库伦组织地下抵抗,1921年带着四百人打垮了占据蒙古二十年的中国驻军。恺撒打高卢死了百万条命,不过是为了自己当独裁官。一个是民族解放的圣徒,一个是奴隶制帝国的刽子手。这对比本身就是荒诞的殖民叙事。蒙古草原的英雄,不需要用罗马的尺子来量。
Both were dictators who destroyed existing orders, but Caesar at least understood long-term governance—land reforms, citizenship extension. Sukhbaatar? Died before he could implement anything. His "revolution" was essentially a Soviet coup. By 1924 Mongolia was a client state with the Red Army garrisoned in Ulaanbaatar. Caesar's assassins got stabbed 23 times; Sukhbaatar's just got forgotten. That's the real tragedy—different degrees of historical relevance.
Caesar conquered Gaul with 10 legions and wrote his own press releases. Sukhbaatar scraped together 400 horsemen. One was a self-mythologizing aristocrat, the other a steppe nobody who actually freed his people from two centuries of Qing rule. Caesar's crossing the Rubicon is theater; Sukhbaatar's march on Kyakhta is real revolution. Western bias frames Caesar as legend while ignoring that Sukhbaatar's victory actually mattered to millions.