Louis IX of France leads by 12.6 pts · 2 figures compared

Emperor · Medieval

Emperor · Medieval
Fulk inherited the County of Anjou from his father Fulk IV. He became a powerful French noble, known for his military skill and political maneuvering.
Fulk married Melisende, daughter of King Baldwin II of Jerusalem. The marriage made him heir to the Kingdom of Jerusalem and strengthened ties between the Crusader states and Europe.
Fulk was crowned King of Jerusalem alongside his wife Melisende. He became the ruler of the Crusader kingdom, facing threats from Muslim states to the north and east.
Fulk led campaigns against the Muslim ruler Zengi of Mosul. He successfully defended the kingdom's borders, but failed to capture key cities like Damascus.
Fulk died after falling from his horse during a hunting trip near Acre. His death left the kingdom in the hands of his wife Melisende and their son Baldwin III.
Louis IX led the Seventh Crusade to Egypt, capturing Damietta in 1249. The campaign ended in disaster at the Battle of Al-Mansurah in 1250, where Louis was captured and later ransomed for a huge sum.
Louis IX implemented judicial and administrative reforms in France, including the establishment of the Parlement of Paris and the prohibition of private warfare. These measures strengthened royal authority and centralized justice.
Louis IX signed the Treaty of Paris with Henry III of England, ending the conflict between the Capetian and Plantagenet dynasties. The treaty confirmed French control over Normandy, Anjou, and Poitou in exchange for English recognition.
Louis IX launched the Eighth Crusade, targeting Tunis in North Africa. The crusade was cut short by an outbreak of disease; Louis died of dysentery outside Tunis, ending the campaign without significant military action.
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这个评分体系有问题。路易九世的总分65.3,军事分只有30.5,但福尔克的总分58.9,军事分却有34.6——这明显是评分权重偏向后期政治家的结果。如果按照中国史书的标准,比如用《资治通鉴》里的“文治武功”二分法,路易九世在司法改革和中央集权上的得分应该更高,但他的两次十字军东征都失败了,而且第七次被俘,这在任何东方王朝都算致命缺陷。反观福尔克,他守住了耶路撒冷王国,还帮助扩张了边界,但在中国正史里,他这种通过联姻上位的“赘婿”君主会被史官扣分。简单说,这套评分把路易的“圣德”权重拉得太高,而福尔克的务实战绩被低估了。
I'm calling BS on this whole scoring system. How do you even quantify 'influence' for a 13th-century saint vs a 12th-century count? Louis's cultural impact gets an 89? That's because he left cathedrals and Aquinas—but Fulk's influence was literally keeping a kingdom alive for another generation. The weight distribution is ridiculous: military gets a 92 and 91 split but political is 87 vs 86? That's just noise. And let's talk about source bias—most of our records for Louis come from hagiographies written to get him canonized. Fulk's chronicles were written by monks who hated his guts. You can't compare numbers from such skewed data sets. This is astrology for history nerds.
把路易九世比作福尔克,让我想起中国史上的宋太宗和南唐后主。路易九世更像宋太宗——都强调文治和制度,路易有《法令汇编》,宋太宗有《太平御览》和科举改革;但宋太宗对辽的北伐也失败了,和路易的十字军失败如出一辙。而福尔克更像南唐的柴克宏——都是外来将领,靠军事才干稳定边疆政权。但西方史学界往往高估了路易的“圣王”光环,忽略了他的军事指挥缺陷。在中国史观里,君主“武功”必须和“文治”并重,福尔克在安条克和埃德萨的防御战,放在魏晋南北朝时期足以媲美一位优秀节度使。所以这种跨文化评分,必须引入东方标准才能公平。
The military scores here are actually closer than the raw numbers suggest, but I'd argue Fulk deserves a higher edge. Let's break it down: Louis's military record is defined by the Seventh Crusade (1248–1254), where he was decisively defeated at al-Mansura by the Mamluks under Baibars. He lost his entire army and was captured. His Eighth Crusade (1270) died of disease before any real fighting. That's two strategic disasters. Fulk, on the other hand, fought a successful defensive campaign against Zengi in the 1130s. At the Battle of Ba'rin (1137), he used terrain and a feigned retreat to break a larger Muslim force. He also fortified Kerak and secured the Syrian frontier. In terms of operational art, Fulk understood logistics and coalition warfare—he allied with Byzantium via marriage. Louis relied on papal funding and chivalric zeal, which proved brittle. If we're weighting military effectiveness, Fulk's 92 vs Louis's 91 is generous to Louis.